Mezco One:12 Collective The Shadow

[zarm106]

For those of you who want to add The Shadow to your Mezco Batman Caped Crusader collection. Mezco is offering The Shadow as a Mezco Exclusive.

https://www.mezcotoyz.com/one-12-collective-the-shadow

[DrewMasie]

Thanks for the heads-up. The Shadow is a great character and this figure seems to be true to the old pulp covers. Will go great with the Batman/Shadow crossover comic.

[Larry A.]

If I could afford it, I'd just enjoy it for what it is. No need for a "crossover" for me!

Cheers!

[AndyFish]

Not a giant fan of this line, but The Shadow is one of my top five characters of all time-- loved the pulps, the radio show and the serial.

[Mike Mulitsch]

I love the Shadow … now Doc Savage

[AndyFish]

I think The Shadow is more well known than Doc, but it's always possible, I'm pretty sure the two characters share a license.

[BiffPow]

Years ago, I had the small hardcover Street and Smith books of the Shadow and Doc Savage.

In my collection of 40 something years, I have one of the old newstand poster boards which they used to display the cover of the issue of the Shadow “currently” on sale.

Really would like to see the new Green Hornet movie go back to those early days. I like the idea of a storyline not being impeded by technology. One of the great things about the old serials/movies is that they were just straight storytelling. No agenda, no social issues other than white hat/black hat good v. evil. It’s why the original Star Wars movies were so loved. They duplicated that formula. Plus, I miss the days when you could see criminals whose motive was simple greed and who wore suits, ties, and hats.

[Larry A.]

Years ago, I had the small hardcover Street and Smith books of the Shadow and Doc Savage.

In my collection of 40 something years, I have one of the old newstand poster boards which they used to display the cover of the issue of the Shadow “currently” on sale.

Really would like to see the new Green Hornet movie go back to those early days. I like the idea of a storyline not being impeded by technology. One of the great things about the old serials/movies is that they were just straight storytelling. No agenda, no social issues other than white hat/black hat good v. evil. It’s why the original Star Wars movies were so loved. They duplicated that formula. Plus, I miss the days when you could see criminals whose motive was simple greed and who wore suits, ties, and hats.

Hey Biff! I have to disagree somewhat with Your comment about the old serials having no agenda or social issues. Look at the 1943 Bat Man serial. It talks about "Japs" and other things that are considered racist today. I DO love the serial overall, but We have to acknowledge the times which WERE racist, sadly.

Cheers!

[BiffPow]

Hey Biff! I have to disagree somewhat with Your comment about the old serials having no agenda or social issues. Look at the 1943 Bat Man serial. It talks about "Japs" and other things that are considered racist today. I DO love the serial overall, but We have to acknowledge the times which WERE racist, sadly.

Cheers!
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Fair, although I see a distinction. I view media inclusion of political or social agendas today as more of an attempt to persuade people to accept a certain belief or conclusion that is not evident on its face. This is different from the portrayal of an actual enemy combatant (who engaged in unprovoked hostilities) as bad.

I think the distinction also lies in the fact that, as you say, those words would be considered “racist TODAY.” Some of the words we consider “racist” today were not considered racist at the time. The origin of the “N” word, for example, was a mispronunciation of French word “nègre,” which was (and still is) a phenotypical description of someone who is Black. It has taken on a different meaning, and a different life, since then, and is now widely understood as a pejorative, but it wasn’t intended as such.

The term “Japs,” for example, I always took to be a shorthand label for the Japanese just as “Nazis” was a shorthand label for the Germans. I don’t think the people who used those terms then were doing so because they were racists. We had been brutally attacked by the Japanese, and the atrocities committed by them (read an account of the horrifically evil acts committed in China and the Philippines, for example), definitely earned whatever animosity the world felt toward the country at the time.

I disagree that “the times” were racist. People can be racist, but “the times” cannot, and a historical point in time shouldn’t be judged using standards as we determine them to be now. In the future, there may be things we say and do now that will be determined by others to have been wrong, racist, or evil. But did we intend our words or actions to be those things at the time we said or committed them? Intent (in the context of the world and the knowledge/facts/circumstances as they then existed and were understood) is what determines whether the acts or the words - at any point of in time - were wrong.

I guess I need to re-watch all of those old serials. I was thinking of the “Batman and Robin” 1949 serial and the Green Hornet serials. Just straight storytelling about bad guys being defeated by good guys. I’m guessing the 1943 Batman serial intended the same.

I get your point, though.

[Larry A.]

Hey Biff! I have to disagree somewhat with Your comment about the old serials having no agenda or social issues. Look at the 1943 Bat Man serial. It talks about "Japs" and other things that are considered racist today. I DO love the serial overall, but We have to acknowledge the times which WERE racist, sadly.

Cheers!

Fair, although I see a distinction. I view media inclusion of political or social agendas today as more of an attempt to persuade people to accept a certain belief or conclusion that is not evident on its face. This is different from the portrayal of an actual enemy combatant (who engaged in unprovoked hostilities) as bad.

I think the distinction also lies in the fact that, as you say, those words would be considered “racist TODAY.” Some of the words we consider “racist” today were not considered racist at the time. The origin of the “N” word, for example, was a mispronunciation of French word “nègre,” which was (and still is) a phenotypical description of someone who is Black. It has taken on a different meaning, and a different life, since then, and is now widely understood as a pejorative, but it wasn’t intended as such.

The term “Japs,” for example, I always took to be a shorthand label for the Japanese just as “Nazis” was a shorthand label for the Germans. I don’t think the people who used those terms then were doing so because they were racists. We had been brutally attacked by the Japanese, and the atrocities committed by them (read an account of the horrifically evil acts committed in China and the Philippines, for example), definitely earned whatever animosity the world felt toward the country at the time.

I disagree that “the times” were racist. People can be racist, but “the times” cannot, and a historical point in time shouldn’t be judged using standards as we determine them to be now. In the future, there may be things we say and do now that will be determined by others to have been wrong, racist, or evil. But did we intend our words or actions to be those things at the time we said or committed them? Intent (in the context of the world and the knowledge/facts/circumstances as they then existed and were understood) is what determines whether the acts or the words - at any point of in time - were wrong.

I guess I need to re-watch all of those old serials. I was thinking of the “Batman and Robin” 1949 serial and the Green Hornet serials. Just straight storytelling about bad guys being defeated by good guys. I’m guessing the 1943 Batman serial intended the same.

I get your point, though.
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Hi Biff,
I think that You DO make some VERY good points. It's unfortunate that we look back on things and judge them by today's standards. Take the original 1940, 50s and 60s television: Women and Black folk were not shown as we see them today, but that is how they were seen in the 40s-60s.

[BiffPow]

Thanks, Larry.

We all fall short by some measure. We did in the past. We will in the future. What matters then, now and tomorrow is what’s in our hearts: good or evil, love or hate.

(And, to get us back on the topic: “Who knows what evil lurks in the hearts of men?”)

[Larry A.]

Thumbs up!