Full screen version

[FLOYDLEWIS]

So has anyone found the real full screen version of the batman movie?..is it hidden away on a DVD we already have?..the full screen VHS is just a cut version of the DVD image ( the version I have from 16mm fell apart)

[Therin of Andor]

So has anyone found the real full screen version of the batman movie?..is it hidden away on a DVD we already have?..

There is a 2008 Blu-Ray that is described on the cover as "Full Resolution".

Different sites say it is either Widescreen anamorphic - 1.78:1 or 1.85:1.

[rsaffle]

So has anyone found the real full screen version of the batman movie?..is it hidden away on a DVD we already have?..the full screen VHS is just a cut version of the DVD image ( the version I have from 16mm fell apart)

When does this scene pictured above occur so I can compare?

[Bat Mitch]

Looks like it's right after the press conference, when they're bringing up the list of super criminals on the wall monitor.

[AndyFish]

I've never understood why anyone wants the full screen version of any movie-- you realize those are simply cropped for TV sets which up through the 70s were basically square-- so you lose the left and right end sides of your movie because cinema screens were wider.

[Scott Sebring]

I've never understood why anyone wants the full screen version of any movie-- you realize those are simply cropped for TV sets which up through the 70s were basically square-- so you lose the left and right end sides of your movie because cinema screens were wider.

But in this case, it was cropped to be widescreen for the theaters. The original print is NTSC aspect. So the non-widescreen version IS the full picture here. Otherwise, I completely agree.

[Batfanman]

Interesting. Information missing from both cuts. Here's a composite overlay of the above.

[Scott Sebring]

I wonder if the laser disc from the 90's was a full screen instead of crop?

[Batfanman]

I checked an ebay listing for the Laser Disc and there's no info on the packaging or disc related to aspect ratio. Just Mono for sound and closed captioning indication.

[JimmyVale]

No way!

I need to know the answer to this!

Widescreen is the cropped version. Wow….interesting.

[Kamdan]

I know for sure the last VHS release of the film is open matte. I held on to it because the DVD release cropped off the United World Organization members’ country plaques, ruining the joke that they’re speaking different languages. I also wanted a 4X3 version to match the show. I just might have to get the LaserDisc as well.

[AndyFish]

No way!

I need to know the answer to this!

Widescreen is the cropped version. Wow….interesting.

My world is upside down.

[Batfanman]

Found this IMDB info on the formats used for various world releases:

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0060153/technical

Then found this thread about the laser disc which seems to confirm it is 1.85:1 anamorphic:

https://www.avsforum.com/threads/batman ... tio.49855/

[Scott Sebring]

Found this IMDB info on the formats used for various world releases:

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0060153/technical

Then found this thread about the laser disc which seems to confirm it is 1.85:1 anamorphic:

https://www.avsforum.com/threads/batman ... tio.49855/

Great info. Thanks!

[batbelfry]

No way!

I need to know the answer to this!

Widescreen is the cropped version. Wow….interesting.

My world is upside down.

Andy, you weren't wrong, per se. These things depend on how the movie was shot. There are multiple types of "widescreen", for the purposes of this conversation, let's keep it to two.

The first is what you're seeing above with the Batman stills. That was shot using standard lenses with 35mm film, which has the same 4:3 (aka 1.33:1) aspect as an old tube TV. They shoot those types of movies with the expectation that the top and bottom of the frame will be "matted" (covered!) during the projection, so they frame them with extra and essentially unnecessary amounts of "sky above and ground below" that you would never see in the theater, but you would have when they aired the "open matte" version on TV before we went to HD and widescreen broadcasting. (Now that we have widescreen TV's, they just use the matted versions, which match the 16:9 shape of a flat panel set.)

The second type of widescreen for our purposes is "Anamorphic" widescreen. That uses special lenses on the camera that (sort of like the fish-eye peep hole in a hotel room door!) can see more image and "squeeze" it onto that original 35mm frame. The projectors in the theater then had corresponding anamorphic lenses on them that horizontally "unsqueeze" that image to its full widescreen shape on the screen, more like 2.35:1. Older versions of that technology were Cinemascope, more modern versions are things like Panavision. A good example of this was Superman The Movie from 1978. And in the case of these types of widescreen movies, you'd be absolutely right. Seeing them "full frame" on a TV set would involve chopping off the sides, unless they were letterboxed with black bars across the top and the bottom.